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I’m against it. It’s too costly, it’s too ineffective, and it’s not going to solve anything.

Aginst it! I’ve had “government” health care before, and it SUCKED!!!

I Dislike what is coming out of congress. Give everybody Medicare and let the insurance companies insure something besides their profits.

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For It I have not had health insurance for over 2 years due to i cannot afford it and companies cannot afford it. I have thousands that I owe due to this and i know I need to get a check up by my gyno but cant afford to go at my age being a woman almost 40 its important but simply cannot afford it. i am for it i am sure many are not.

I’m against it. This doesn’t address tort reform, fraud, or allowing small business to band together for larger group insurance, lowering the cost of pharma. It is designed to go to single payer in five years and Obama said only productive citizens will receive life saving health care. It sounds like trading one set of problems for another. Our population is much larger than most countries who have socialized health care.

America needs Health Care Reform. However, we don’t need reform which has been thrown together by Congress (of all places). Obama needs to gather ideas from both sides of the aisle, Dems and Reps, then put the ideas into a comprehensive bill which should be presented to the American people for debate. This needs to be something we can all live with, and not just something which has been shoved down our throats.

As a vet I don’t want anything to do with it. For all you people that think it’s a good idea think about the fact that I served for eight years to enjoy the VA system, so what do you think the free stuff is going to be like?

Very much against it as it stands… not against the whole concept.. but it needs work and it needs the public input. All these rich bloody bureaucrats sitting around in a room with no idea how the rest of America lives.. they with all the free health care and the best paid for by you and me.. WHAT IN HELL DO THEY KNOW about what we need or want. They don’t. Congress is so out of touch with people it is sickening.

So I want them to go back, and rework it and talk to the people about it!

First of all let’s call it what it is. It’s not health CARE reform, it’s health INSURANCE reform. It doesn’t propose any thing to improve our health care such as increasing the size of the medical community to speed things up. It proposes to place a greater burden on the ones we have though. It’s simply allowing the tax payers an opportunity to pay for everybody else’s health care including illegals. How about they try just as hard to create jobs that have health insurance perks, Where is that plan at, that’s what the people need. Not the hand outs that this guy’s proposing.

I’m all for it. It’s the only way that everyone will be covered. The people who say it’s going to be too expensive are mistaken.

Obama should lead by precedent and example. Harry and Bess Truman got Social Security (Medicare) accounts #1 & # 2. Obama care Health Accounts 1 & 2 should fit him and wife Michelle perfectly with accounts 3 & 4 reserved for their kids. Americans should write their Representatives and Senators urging the first line of any health legislation to read “Under penalty of Life Imprisonment for fraud Federal Elected officials voluntarily accept the following legislation for themselves and their family – Immediate Enrollment shall take place upon their approval vote” That should take care of things.

It’s a failure every place it has ever been tried. Wealthy people come here from all over the world and pay cash for healthcare because of their nationalized healthcare. The quality goes down while the paperwork, red tape and general BS goes up. It will result in fewer doctors, longer waits, lower quality and higher overall costs to everybody from the start. Then, like every government program that ever existed, the costs will go up while the service declines. There is not a single example of our government doing anything differently.

I don’t know about anyone else but I am dead set against it.

I think they said what they wanted when it came to the election. I am always amazed how many Americans seem not to be aware about the issues with healthcare relying on FOX and other sources to spread misinformation about the healthcare system of the USA and those abroad.

First of all, Obama wants to make insurance more available to all. And change the system so that it is cheaper, and also so that the insurance companies find it harder to get out of paying for treatment. The system he is proposing looks similar to that which works in Holland and Switzerland where private companies are involved in providing insurance. The second Guardian link has an insurance executive talking about how his company and others like it push up costs, buy out politicians and refuse to pay out when people are ill. Obama wants to change that.

Second, of course universal health-cover sucks. That is why we in Western Europe have it. We think, hmm, our healthcare system sucks. I know, lets keep it. I guess that is the same with Japan and Canada as well.

Third, Obama campaigned on reforming the healthcare system. He said he wanted to make insurance more available and he was elected by the American people to do this.

FACT – the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.
FACT – the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.
That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.

Last of all if you do not like the policies that Obama was elected to bring in, he can always be voted out of office in 2012.

against it

I’m so for it.

Who am I kidding? Obama made it up so it must be bad. Stand up America. Don’t let Obama fool you in letting him spend all the money we need.

The Patriot provided the only response that reflects some knowledge of the plan. The rest of the answers are emotional–totally lacking in information, facts, or understanding–or they are reflections of propaganda that has been used to prevent the US from providing access to quality health care for 50 years.

A free nation is one that deals in information and facts–not knee-jerk reaction against government. How many of these responses show knowledge of the fact that the for-profit, private health insurance companies are increasingly denying health coverage, dropping people who need health care the most, and running “administration” costs (mostly profits and salaries that are many multiples of what the people who deliver health care make) of over 31% (compare that to Medicare’s 3%).

A free nation is one with an independent press. Our media are owned if not run by huge corporations with ties to the profits of the health-care insurers and pharmaceutical companies.

These same “arguments” were used to oppose Social Security, the TVA, Medicare, NASA, and many other government programs that have succeeded where the private sector has failed.

We do not need tort reform. We need to stop letting the medical profession police itself. Doctors who constantly make mistakes that cost people their livelihood and even their lives should not be allowed to continue to practice medicine. And if we had the guaranteed income for disabled people, universal health care, and guaranteed pensions that other first-world countries do, awards for malpractice would not have to be high enough to cover loss of health insurance, loss of income (sometimes for life), and enough money for victims of malpractice to live in whatever residual dignity they may have left. How many of the people responding even know that only one out of six cases of malpractice even go to court?

The Obama reform is too timid: it allows health-insurance companies to continue to run for profit. A public option, however, like Medicare for all, would at least act as a brake on the size of the profits.

Personally, I do not believe that the greatest priority in health care should be profit; it should be favorable outcomes for people who need it. As long as ca$h is the basis of our system, however, expect to see less coverage, higher premiums, higher co-pays, and less access to heath care when it is most needed.

If you favor the staus quo, that is what you are fighting for.

To those of you who want to read all 1018 pages of it:

http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Our current system is a failure, millions uninsured, the average person paying many times more than others in countries with nationalized healthcare, we need a change. I trust that this time, we can actually have some real reform, and help insure the millions of americans without health coverage.